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Kedves Kollegák,<br></p><p align="left" class="ydpd545740bwestern" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%">
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kedves Lorenzovics Laci!</p>
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Követtem az online vizsgáztatással kapcsolatos levélváltást, és
főleg a Laci megosztott tapasztalatai után határoztam el, hogy
reagálni fogok.<br></p><p align="left" class="ydpd545740bwestern" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%">
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Az onlin vizsgáztatás témája van a középpontban, de
tulajdonképpen a tudásátadás új-régi formái és hatékonysága
az, amiról szó van. Vagyis az oktatók
elképzelésrendszere/kultúrája, meg az Egyetem
intézményes<font color="#000000"><font face="Liberation Serif, Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span lang="hu-HU">í</span></font></font></font>tett-szabályozott
rendszerének működése, működtetése egy kivételes (,,extrém”
- Tonk Márton megnevezése az április 24-i szenátuson) –
helyzetben.<br></p><p align="left" class="ydpd545740bwestern" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%">
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1. Mindenek előtt tudomásul kell venni a kivételességet és az
ideiglenességet.</p>
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Aki úgy viselkedik, mintha nem lennének megváltozott körülmények,
kényszerhelyzetek, az tévedésben van. Mint a normálistól eltérő
helyzetekben általában, ebben is próbálkozásokról,
k<font color="#000000"><font face="Liberation Serif, Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span lang="hu-HU">í</span></font></font></font>sérletezésekről
(kapkodásról?), meg várakozásról (hogy majd megint lesz
,,normális”) van szó. ,,Helyes” és ,,erkölcsös” is csak
ebben a relativizálódott viszonyrendszerben értelmezhető.<br></p><p align="left" class="ydpd545740bwestern" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%">
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2. Véleményem szerint nem az a fontos kérdés, amiről vitatkozni,
eszmét gyártani és eszmét cserélni kellene, hogy ,,éppen mit
lehet és mit nem lehet, mi helyes és mi nem, mi erkölcsös és mi
nem” ma, egy hét múlva, egy hónap múlva.</p>
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Két fontos kérdést látok:</p>
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2.1. Mi történt eddig, ki mennyire használta az online
tudásátadás, ellenőrzés, kapcsolattartás formáit eddig – és
milyen hatékonysággal? Kinek milyen tapasztalata van erről? </p>
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2.2. Kinek milyen elképzelése van arról, hogy hosszú távon
hogyan lehet egyeztetni az offline és online helyzeteket,
tudásátadási és ellenőrzési formákat, a ,,hibrid”
valóságokat. Mert ezután már nem lesz más.<br></p><p align="left" class="ydpd545740bwestern" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%">
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3. Én a 2<span lang="en-GB">013-</span><span lang="hu-HU">ban
beindult Kommunikáció és PR (Csíkszereda) mesterin kultúra és
kommunikáció tantárgyból első szessziótól kezdve online
vizsgáztatok. Ha valakit érdekel, szívesen beszámolok róla,
miért dön</span><span lang="hu-HU">t</span><span lang="hu-HU">öttem
így és milyen formában valósul ez meg. Utóbb az alapképzésnél
is bizonyos tantárgyaknál alkalmazom ezt a formát is. Most tehát
semmiféle nehézséget nem okozott az online forma kötelezővé
tétele.</span></p>
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<span lang="hu-HU">A nehézségek nem a vizsgáztatás során, hanem
a félév </span><span lang="hu-HU">alatt</span><span lang="hu-HU">,
a rendszeres face to face kapcsolatok elmaradása miatt keletkeztek,
ke</span><span lang="hu-HU">letkezhetnek. Egyetértek Lacival: </span><font face="Times New Roman, serif"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">
</span></span></span></font></font><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">
,,on line rendszerben az oktat</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">á</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">snak
alacsony a hat</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">é</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">konys</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">á</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">ga
</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">é</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">s
a min</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">ő</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">s</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">é</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">ge
NEM biztos</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">í</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">that</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">ó
</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">”
-</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">azzal
a kiegészítéssel, hogy ,,CSAK online rendszerben nem
biztosítható”: a hibridé a jövő. Az év közben zajló,
kontakt órákat nem lehet kiváltani </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">kizárólag
</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">online
órákkal – én is ezt tapasztaltam.</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">4.
Mit jelent a</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">z,
hogy</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">
hibrid (régi és új </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">módszerek
kombinálása, offline kapcsolat és online anyagbemutatás,
kombinált számonkérés)?</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">Az
új helyzetben az ellenőrzés, vizsgáztatás mit is tud mérni,
jutalmazni?</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">Igen
nagy különbségeket látok tudományágak és képzési célok
között. </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">A</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">bban
az esetben, ha</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">
a tudományos jártasságot saját szövegek megalkotásával kell
bizony</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">í</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">tani,
vagyis</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">1.
a tanár jegyzete/</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">szövege</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">
csak kiindulópontokat ad,</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">2.
internetes kereséssel </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">(mások
szövegeinek elérésével) jutnak</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">
olyan szakanyagok</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">hoz</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">,
amire a tanár csak felh</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">í</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">vja
a figyelmüket, vagy éppen jutalmazza, ha saját maguk fedezik fel
és használják </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">azokat</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">,</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">3.
tisztába vannak a forráshasználat (idézés, parafrazálás,
bibliográfia-szerkesztés), vagyis </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">az
</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">etikus
szövegalkotás szabályaival – </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">és
persze </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">a
számonkérésnél </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">keresik,
rajtakapják, szigorúan büntetik a szabályok megszegőit,</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">4.
tisztába vannak a tudományos szövegformálás, szövegtagolás
alapszabályaival (elméleti anyagok használata, alkalmazott
módszertan bemutatása, kutatási eredmények bemutatása,
konklúziók megfogalmazása, </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">meg
természetesen: bevezetés-tárgyalás-befejezés</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">),
</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">és
</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">5.
</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">a
válaszadás idej</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">e
szigor</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">ú</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">an
korlátozott, ellenőrzött,</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">ott
igazán nem gond az, hogy online, vagyis nem egyszerre, nem egy zárt
helyen, és </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">az
</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">ellenőrző
felügyeletet mellőzve vizsgáznak.</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">T</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">ermészetesen,
más esetekben más módszerek, feltételek teljes</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">í</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">tése
szükséges, ez csak egy példa volt.</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">K</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">edves
Kollegák, kedves Laci,</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><br></p><p align="left" class="ydpd545740bwestern" style="margin-bottom: 0cm; line-height: 100%">
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">úgy
látom, az alapkérdés nem az, hogy ,,csalnak-e a vizsgán a diákok”
(mert tudjuk: egy része igen, más része nem, egy része igy, másik része amúgy...), hanem az, hogy most és
ezután, főleg pedig ezután: hibrid módszerekkel miképpen lehet
jegyet adni (és a jegynek csak valamennyi része a vizsga) úgy,
hogy az </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">1.
mutassa a megszerzett ,,tudásukat” </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">(vagyis
a ,,munkánk eredményét” és a ,,felkészültségüket egy
mesterség gyakorlására”) </span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">és</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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<span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">2.
kialak</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">í</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">tson
egy aktuális, elfogadható/</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">a
diákok által is elfogadott</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">
értékelési/morális (mert ösztönd</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">í</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span><span style="font-variant: normal"><font color="#1d2228" style="background-color: inherit;"><span style="text-decoration: none"><font face="Times New Roman, serif" style="background-color: inherit;"><font size="3" style="font-size: 12pt"><span style="letter-spacing: normal"><span lang="hu-HU"><span style="font-style: normal"><span style="font-weight: normal">j
is van a világon…) hierarchiát.</span></span></span></span></font></font></span></font></span></p>
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On Monday, May 25, 2020, 10:12:16 AM GMT+3, Alkalmazott Társadalomtudományok Tanszék <att_dssa@ms.sapientia.ro> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785"><div><div class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785WordSection1"><div id="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785yahoo_quoted_0823993989"><div><div><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">Szervusztok</span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">A tegnap tudtam meg hogy on line allamvizsga lesz, oszinten, leesett az allam, mert az on line szessziot meg valahogy lenyeltem, de az allamvizsga mar eleg nehezemre esik.</span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">Oszinten, 3 egyetemen diplomaztam romaniaban, eleg jol ismerem tobb egyetem helyzetet, es nyugodtan kimondhato, hogy a rangos allami egyetemek kozott is tobb szak diplomagyarkent mukodik, hasonloan a Hiperion es Cantemirhez stb.</span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">En buszke voltam arrra, hogy a Sapientia Kozeg szak elmondhatja magarol, hogy NEM diplomagyar, es meg ha a diakok valamivel gyengepp kepesseguek is esetleg mint Kolozsvaron (de sok ertekes van kozottuk, errol meggyozodtem mar, nelunk is dolgoznak), a vizsgak komolysaga es erkolcse miatt az oklevelnek erteke van a roman piacon.</span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">Ugy gondolom, hogy az on line vizsga lerombolja mindazt, amit ez a tanar csapat kemeny munkaval felepitett (es ugy gondolom hogy meg feluton jarunk az epitkezesben).</span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">Felhivtam Domi Joskat, es fel orat beszelgettunk, roviden osszefoglalom:</span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span></p><ul type="disc" style="margin-top:0cm;"><li class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;"><span lang="HU">Ha a tanszek akarja, akkor nem tart on line allamvizsgat, de akkor meg kell varni, amig feloldjak a korlatozasokat. Szerintem a korlatozasok egy resze fel lesz oldva jun 1 tol, es jun 15-tol majdnem minden, juli 1 tol pedig garantaltan minden (max a fesztivalok nem). Ez esetben, az allamvizsga ezen a nyaron is megszervezheto klasszikusan. Persze jon az erettsegi es a felveteli 9-be ami klasszikus lesz, DE az egyetemek eseteben az allmvizsga valahogy egy szurke zonaba kerult, es az egyetemek Rektorai ugy ertettem nem igyekeztek a kormannyal ezt a kerdest tisztazni ... reszemrol, ha egy gyarban dolgozhat tobb 100 ember, nem ertem miert nem vizsgazhatna 10-20 diak egymastol 2-3 m-re, es ha kell akar 2 teremben is ... ugy latom, a kenyelem nagy ur ... sokfele</span></li><li class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;"><span lang="HU">Osszel pedig mindekepp klasszikusan lesz az allamvizsga, tehat egy olyan paradox helyzet fog eloallni, hogy aki most vizsgazik on line lesz (ez meg kerdeses), es aki osszel, az klasszikus.</span></li><li class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;"><span lang="HU">A legnagyobb veszely, a puskazason tul (amit ipari meretekben folyik az orvosin), hogy a tesztek kikerulnek, es a diakok a teszteket fogjak tanulni es nem az anyagot.</span></li><li class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;"><span lang="HU">Ami a puskazast illeti, a mernokis tanarok erdekes modszereket vezettek be, erdemes errol beszelgetni veluk. Pl. Dupla kameras vizsga (laptp + okostelefon), sot, az orakat is igy tartjak ... </span></li></ul><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">Szoval, tul azon hogy ellenzeki vagy agitator szerepet vallalnek magamra, ez tavol all tolem, ugy gondolom hogy a rangidos tanarok el kene ragodjanak ezeken a kerdeseken ... es azokon amiket meg elobbi leveleimben irtam, epito szandekkal. Es ne kossunk olyan kompromisszumokat, amelyek nem vallalhatok nyugodt szivvel. Az uj egyetemek/ szakok, ahoz hogy felemelkedjenek, igenyesebbek / szigorubbak kell legyenek, elso sorban magukkal szemben, mint masok.</span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">Es a helyi kulturabol atvett „merge si asa” nem kellene betorjon az eletunkbe. Azert van ott ez az orszag ahol van ...</span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU"> </span></p><p class="ydp52b3b5c1yiv6912902785MsoNormal"><span lang="HU">LL</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Att_dssa mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Att_dssa@ms.sapientia.ro" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Att_dssa@ms.sapientia.ro</a><br><a href="https://level.ms.sapientia.ro/levlistak/listinfo/att_dssa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://level.ms.sapientia.ro/levlistak/listinfo/att_dssa</a></div>
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